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Summary: First Anti-War, War History
Comment: This is an exhausting work, but exhausting in the best meaning of the word. Thucydides does what the
few truly great historians can do, he brings to life not only the Pelopponesian war with battles and
dates, but also with detailed descriptions of greek life at the time. He goes beyond mere recitation
of facts and reaches that ethereal plane of seeing a moral pageant reflected in the terrors of the
warfare. At the time, the pelopponesian war, is the first of its kind, where multiple city-states
form allegiances and the two great powers, Athens and Sparta vie for supremacy. But beyond the
political and military intrigues, Thucydides brings a human face and a tragic toll to this bloody
war. Many cite the funeral oration of Pericles as a defining moment of the history, but the part
that haunts my memory is the description of the treatment of the prisoners of war by Syracusans, it
made my stomach knot at the idea of human cruelty being executed on such a massive scale so far back
in our history. The greatest tragedy that Thucydides lays bare in this monumental work, is that this
first great assembly of all the powers of men, exploiting political, logistic, military strengths,
was only wrought for the destruction of the other.

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Summary: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Comment: Thucydides is usually accounted the first "real" historian; because of his use of written material,
interviews with participants, and scientific objectivity, he set a precedent that would be held as
the ideal for all who followed. Thucydides remarks at the beginning of his book that:"...if these
words of mine are judged useful by those who want to understand clearly the events which happened in
the past and which (human nature being what it is) will, at some time or other in much the same
ways, be repeated in the future." No historian today would claim that the past repeats its self,
but, sadly, human nature does. Like some of my fellow reviewers you can see the correlation of the
Peloponnesian and Delian leagues with the United Nations and NATO of today. The numerous peace
treaties and ambassadorial delegations seem so closely to mirror our present time. This book is at
the bedrock of Western Civilization, and must be read to understand the great European conflicts
which followed.

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Summary: this is the first attempt at historical objectivity
Comment: It is always fascinating to pick up what is regarded as a classic and read through it in a naive
manner, not as a specialist but someone who just wants to learn. There are always surprises.

In
contrast to the looser Herodotus, his near contemporary, Thucydides sought to record an "objective
truth" of the great war between Athens and Sparta, in the 5C BC. He consulted multiple sources and
carefully judged what to include and what not to include, in accordance with his evolving idea of
what really happened. While some of the forms, such as made-up speeches, differ from what we would
do today, he set a new standard for accuracy. THe result is a work of genius, the first serious
attempt at writing history rather than merely storytelling.

Reading this is not always fun.
There are long sections that are lists of occurences, with references to individuals who appear and
disappear without followup. But there are also penetrating analyses of remarkable characters, such
as Perikles, Alcidiades, and other great generals, who became reference points to the present day.
Thucydides also covered political science - how institutions actually functioned - in new ways, with
demonstrations of how the unleashing of passions led to their corruption or distortion. Finally,
there are chilling sections with timeless insight in human conduct in war, with the full horror of
the breakdown of all order and law.

THis translation is also emminently readable, far better
than the rigid and more literal one I first read in college. THucydides is quite eloquent in this
version. There is also a good introduction to put the work in perspective.


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Summary: A History/Political Science Masterpiece
Comment: Thucydides, an Athenian living in the 5th Century BC, writes the history of the Peloponnesian War, a
war between the Greek city-states of Athens and Sparta. It is a must-read for anyone interested in
history or Western civilization/thought and, so I have been told, for military strategists. Given
that it is the story of a war that took place over 2400 years ago, however, it is probably not for
anyone looking for an interesting diversion from the workaday world. For that, in the classical
history genre, I would turn to Herodotus who provides a much more lively history, or for military
history to Blackhawk Down, or for those interested in the grimmer parts of history, Daniel Judah
Goldhagen's book on ordinary Germans' role in the holocaust and the glut of refuting books written
in response. Those are better page-turners, so to speak.

However, for those who are assigned to
read Thucydides in a classroom or for those interested in the classical studies or the origins of
Western Civ, you will not regret having read Thucyides. Along with Herodotus' Histories, it is the
foundation of modern historical writing and research (i.e., the telling of events from first hand
knowledge or from original sources). Both Herodotus and Thucyidides were not above making up
speeches out of whole cloth, but the events that they recounted were all based on actual accounts
(although Herodotus was more willing to recount seemingly fantastical tenth hand accounts and
therefore can be seen as a bridge between the myth-telling of Homer and the more rigorous history of
Thucydides).

As stated above, Thucydides does obviously make up some of the speeches, but given
the recent controversy over the authorized biography of Ronald Reagan, it seems that some modern
historians are also guilty of this and Thucydides did his work before academic standards were
created to say that this shouldn't be done.

Along with an account of the actual events of the War
which is most interesting to classicists and military historians (neither of which I am, so I will
not comment further on this), Thucydides gives us timeless lessons in politics, the risks of relying
on luck and international relations/diplomacy. He also gives us his take on the dangers of too much
democracy and mob rule (although he is likely biased on this issue since, although he was a general
during the Peloponnesian War, the Athenians voted to banish him after one battle).

So, to some up,
Thucydides History is not for the casual reader, but is an extremely interesting work and is a
must-read for those interested in classical history.


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Comment: I'm sorry to do this but this is just too funny to pass up. One of the guys below I believe his
name is Kulp titled his review "bound to be a classic." Yeah maybe we can give it a couple more
thousand years and it will become a classic, Bub.




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